Sarah Fejfar (00:14.393)
Lindsay, welcome to Greenroom Central Studios. Say hello to Linchpin Nation.
Lindsey Mango (00:31.022)
Hi Linchpin Nation, I am so excited to be here.
Sarah Fejfar (00:35.139)
Lindsay, I am so looking forward to this conversation. I always do a lot of prep before I do interviews. And I originally I asked you on because I follow Chris Harder and I had seen your interview with him pop up and I was absolutely captivated by the way you coached him and how you got to breakthroughs. And it was like like scroll stopping for me. And and then.
Lindsey Mango (00:51.756)
Mm -hmm.
Lindsey Mango (01:01.254)
Control stopping.
Sarah Fejfar (01:04.889)
As I dove into more of your episodes, as I did my research for this conversation, I kept falling more and more in love with how you think and how you coach and all the similarities between us, between being moms and entrepreneurs and the whole midwesterner thing and digging food and breathwork and movement. And so all that to say, I'm excited to have you here. Yeah. So I thought we'd start by having a little fun and asking you to share a story.
Lindsey Mango (01:24.946)
Yay! Oh my gosh, me too!
Sarah Fejfar (01:32.729)
So the whole premise for this show is around my belief that being in the room is everything. And a little backstory for you. So just a little bit over six years ago, I stepped into my first personal development seminar. It was four days and it changed my life. Within less than 11 months of being in that room, I had left the Midwest where I'd been my entire life and moved to the Pacific Northwest, sold our house, moved our family, left a...
Lindsey Mango (01:32.95)
Okay.
Lindsey Mango (01:39.222)
Hmm.
Lindsey Mango (01:56.174)
Hmm.
Sarah Fejfar (02:01.293)
16 year corporate career, started my own business, got out of like a decade and a half worth of debt. I mean, it's just massive shift. And so all that to say to start us off, I'd love for you to share a story of a room you made it into that profoundly changed your life.
Lindsey Mango (02:08.94)
Wow.
That's awesome.
Lindsey Mango (02:21.666)
Yeah, oh my gosh. And when you say room, does it have to be like a group room or do you consider like any container or room? I want to make sure.
Sarah Fejfar (02:30.691)
Well, you know, we've had a lot of different answers on this podcast, anything from like church to my guidance counselor to the best mastermind I've ever had to me a personal development seminar. So interpret it as you wish.
Lindsey Mango (02:44.91)
Okay, perfect. So it's so fun to hear your story. Like literally gives me chills because I'm like, I just know that feeling too and that like same experience. So mine was, gosh, eight, no, probably six or seven years ago, I was just like,
there were so many places in my life where I found myself just stuck in the same spots over and over and over again. Like I was really trying to change. I think that's kind of an interesting take because I think sometimes people are like stuck in inaction. Whereas for me, it was like, I really was like doing stuff and working hard and trying. And yet I found myself just like stuck in the same spots, like same pattern, same different results, like different results, but.
similar feelings, like it was just all more of the same. And I went to a networking event for my corporate job. I had, at that time I was in network marketing and just dabbling and dabbling in personal growth. And then I meet this girl at this event and she says she's a life coach. And I'm kind of like,
what the heck is that? I honestly thought we were gonna meet for like business. Like I was like, oh, she'll refer me people I'll refer her people it'll be great. So I like call her up. I meet her for coffee thinking that's where this is going. And then I'm like, wait a minute. What do you do? And so she tells me and like explains it and then I just like pour my heart and soul out to her and yeah and just tell her.
Sarah Fejfar (04:03.513)
Yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (04:18.007)
Oh.
Lindsey Mango (04:20.782)
like my dreams and these feelings that I have that I meant for a much bigger life, but I didn't know how to get there and all these things. And I mean, I'm sure she said so many things, but all I really needed was for someone, which was her to look at me and be like, yeah, you could totally have that and do that. And I walked out of that coffee meeting and I was like, I'm hiring her. And I did. And...
Sarah Fejfar (04:47.095)
Mmm.
Lindsey Mango (04:49.134)
Similar to your experience, I like three months in to just working together and working on my life and learning all of these mindset tools, my life just drastically changed. And then I started a business and replaced my corporate salary in six months and changed my relation. I mean, just same type of thing as you. It was like everything was just like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And that changed the trajectory of my entire life.
Sarah Fejfar (04:56.985)
Yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (05:09.113)
Yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (05:15.193)
Wow. Yeah. It's so weird. You know, having a corporate background, I'm sure you get it. Like there's just these blinders on that there's even this other world out there where, you know, people aspire to grow personally and not just professionally. I think I feel like that was how it was for me. It was like all these people on this professional track of like moving onward and upward and them. But no one talking about this deep.
Lindsey Mango (05:42.35)
Totally.
Sarah Fejfar (05:44.153)
work that is required in order to make that move. Yeah.
Lindsey Mango (05:50.094)
I totally agree. I feel like it's a little bubble. I feel like our worlds are a little bubble and the environment we're in and the people we're surrounded by and all of that just reflect that and until you get out of that or see outside of that, it's really hard to see anything different.
Sarah Fejfar (05:57.965)
Mm.
Mm.
Sarah Fejfar (06:07.129)
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like how I curate my feed. So I used to, a decade ago, have like a Facebook and I would scroll and like it would be all family and friends. And now on Instagram, my feed of who I follow is so precisely curated that they are people who have like achieved what I want to achieve and like think the way I want to think and you know, like.
Lindsey Mango (06:28.494)
Yes.
Sarah Fejfar (06:35.957)
behave, act, like, you know, exercise the way I want to exercise all the things, right. And it's it's like curating that room because clearing the bubble like you shared. So continuing in that vein of events since this podcast is all about events and entrepreneurship, let's talk about events for a bit. So I've been producing events for over 20 years, and it wasn't until I got into that room that I shared with you that personal development seminar.
Lindsey Mango (06:44.974)
Yeah, totally.
Sarah Fejfar (07:04.089)
happened to be a Brenda Breschard event. And where I was like, wait, people pay with their own money to go to events and like, they enjoy being there. And they're surrounded by like minded, growth minded people. It really did crack my mind open, mind blown to be in a room like that. I had previously been in corporate, so planning events where people had to, like it was for free, they had to go, they didn't want to be there. It's just, so it's just, it was mind blowing. And...
So I'm curious how have events played a role in your growth, not only as you as a human, but as a coach, perhaps even in your business?
Lindsey Mango (07:34.734)
Yeah. Yeah, so in so many ways, I think I've been in many different masterminds that have in -person events connected to them. I have been to what I would call VIP events where they're very intimate, just a couple of people.
Sarah Fejfar (07:51.929)
Yeah.
Lindsey Mango (07:59.96)
I've been to retreats. I mean, I've been to so many different things. And when it comes to my business, I do like some retreats and some events like that. And oh my gosh, I can't even begin to explain the impact of them because I think that it's like, it takes you out of your life. It takes you out of the treadmill of life and it puts you in a completely different energy.
completely different space where you are, you can't be anything but present to what's going on around you and to the possibilities that are available to you and to the other humans that are there to open your mind to possibilities you didn't even know existed. And did they challenge you, right? To like be uncomfortable, share things in front of others that you may never have shared, you know, in the past. So,
Sarah Fejfar (08:53.113)
Yes.
Lindsey Mango (08:56.11)
I mean, I think the dynamic of in -person things and events is just, I don't think there's anything like it. I mean, as much as like most of the stuff I do is virtual and all of that, I just know that whenever I have an in -person element with my clients and students, and when I go to them, it changes the entire dynamic of the work we're doing.
Sarah Fejfar (09:12.889)
Yes.
Sarah Fejfar (09:17.913)
I couldn't agree more. I feel the same. Let's shift gears a little bit and talk about how you help your clients. I want to start in gratitude. So what brings you the most gratitude when it comes to coaching your clients? Like, let's take, for example, your ABA life membership.
Lindsey Mango (09:40.302)
Yeah. Oh my gosh, I think I've been really relishing in this lately. Like I just feel so deeply grateful and honored to be the, to get to be the person in their life that breathes life into their dreams, that helps them see themselves in a completely different way. Like I, I feel like sometimes it's like,
there's some work that people teach or do around, you know, like being like, yeah, of course, like people come to me and all of that. And I believe in that as well. But then I think there's this other element of like every single human that comes into my space. I know what that feels like to invest money and to partner with somebody. And I just feel so honored that I get to be that person for my students and get to watch them in real time change the way they see themselves in their life.
It's like I get to be a part of a miracle and I can't imagine a more impactful and just like thing that I could be grateful for.
Sarah Fejfar (10:49.273)
Yes. Yeah. It's it's all I know why I just thought of this. It is almost like being a doctor who gets to bring babies into the world. Like your your job is joy. Like your job is creating miracles. And what a blessing. Yeah. Well, let's let's talk about celebration, since you do have so much to be grateful for and.
Lindsey Mango (11:03.06)
Right?
Lindsey Mango (11:07.662)
So true. Yes, I love that.
Sarah Fejfar (11:18.457)
like all these miracles that you are kicking off in people's lives. I want to talk about how you celebrate. So I'm currently reading the gap and the gain because I just, I really noticed that I sit in the gap. I sit in the looking forward towards what I am going after and how I'm not there yet. And instead forgetting all of...
the accomplishments that have come along the way. And we have this family dinner table tradition where we share things we're grateful for. We share something that we learned that day and then we share something we're proud of. And in that spirit, I'd love for you to share with us a recent accomplishment that you're particularly proud of and then how do you celebrate? It's definitely something I want to get better at.
Lindsey Mango (11:59.726)
I love that.
Lindsey Mango (12:13.142)
obsessed with that book, by the way. Like I yeah, so funny that you're reading it. I mean, I, I feel like I'm one of those people that like when I'm into something, I'm into it. When I was like reading that book, I was just like constantly telling everybody to read it. I love it. It's so good. Um, so what am I celebrating? Oh my gosh, so many things. I think the biggest thing that I'm celebrate celebrating right now has been
Sarah Fejfar (12:15.129)
Really?
Lindsey Mango (12:41.432)
my ability, so I'm pregnant, I have a daughter, thank you, and I'm running and growing my business and so there's a lot of different pieces, a lot of different hats I'm wearing, so I think one of my, I feel my biggest accomplishments is not that I do that perfectly by any means, but I feel like I'm handling that in a very powerful way where I'm truly checking in with myself and know like,
Sarah Fejfar (12:44.031)
Congratulations.
Lindsey Mango (13:08.622)
when I want to stop working and spend time with my daughter. And then on the flip side, when I want to be working and following through on that and just trusting kind of the ebbs and flows of my business and trusting when I'm exhausted and I need rest and take care of myself. I feel like, I think that can be really challenging. And I think I am doing a pretty awesome job of that. And I think alongside that just, I'm celebrating.
Sarah Fejfar (13:23.129)
Yes.
Lindsey Mango (13:38.606)
I feel like I'm heading into a huge kind of up level of like business maturity and seeing my business in a kind of a different way than I ever have. And I think it's uncomfortable, but I feel like I'm like really aware of it and willing, whereas I don't feel like I have been up until this point. So those are my celebrations. How do I celebrate?
Sarah Fejfar (13:52.953)
Mmm. Mmm.
Lindsey Mango (14:00.334)
Um, I'm huge on celebrating, um, because just like you, I'm a human and our brains love to focus on what we are trying to accomplish and what we haven't done yet. And so, um, one thing I love to do is spend time like literally writing down everything that I'm celebrating. Uh, I don't do it daily, but I work to do it pretty consistently throughout the week.
Sarah Fejfar (14:18.297)
Mm.
Lindsey Mango (14:24.45)
and just like tracking everything. And it truly is like the quote, what you focus on expands. It's like, I can even feel like, do I really have that much to celebrate? But when I take conscious and intentional time to write it down, to look, to like see what clients are getting results and what's happening and how much money did we bring in this week? It's like, it just starts popping up everywhere. And so for me, it's more about,
just taking conscious intentional time to be aware of it and relish in that and feel the feelings of celebration when I'm doing that.
Sarah Fejfar (14:51.993)
Mm.
Sarah Fejfar (14:59.191)
Mm, it's so good. I think sometimes for someone who's so driven and also practical and, you know, kind of used to working on big things, it seems hard to hear that it's that simple. Right? Like, write it down. Like, just actually think about it and write it down.
Lindsey Mango (15:18.482)
Right. Yeah, that's so true. That is I love that you said it because it's so true. We want to be like, isn't there more to it than that? But it really isn't. Totally.
Sarah Fejfar (15:32.185)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's got to be hard. I do. I did incorporate a few years back a practice of journaling each morning with gratitude and learnings and what I'm excited about for the day and what I'm proud of. And then I got some gold star stickers. And so if I put the more things I'm proud of, I get to put more gold stars on the paper that day.
Lindsey Mango (16:00.59)
I love that.
Sarah Fejfar (16:02.169)
And it feels fun. It's like my encouragement to write because I only do it next to things I'm proud of and because it's hard sometimes to make that list. And so I guess the more things I'm celebrating, the more girl's stars I get.
Lindsey Mango (16:03.534)
I love that! Oh my god, that's amazing.
Lindsey Mango (16:18.426)
So fun.
Sarah Fejfar (16:22.201)
I, oh, you said that book that you love it. I'm kind of excited. I just joined a membership that is all about reading books. And the next call with the group is a call with the author of the Gap and the Gain to like ask Q &A. And I'm so excited to basically selfishly, I want to ask him if he could just start writing a children's book series with all of those concepts.
Lindsey Mango (16:40.462)
So cool.
Sarah Fejfar (16:51.705)
because that would be amazing. But maybe I'll just do that down the road. Let's talk more about some life coachy stuff because that's what you do and are outstanding at. I was listening to one of, I don't know if it was a podcast you were on or yours, you're talking about this concept of a pre -planned response. And it really caught my ear.
Lindsey Mango (16:52.398)
That's genius!
Yeah, or sell him the idea.
Sarah Fejfar (17:21.913)
And I'd love for you to share more about that because I do think there's often times where I get into a place where I'm, let's say spiraling or in fear and like, it's hard to think. Or maybe I'm ruminating on something. And again, it's hard to think logically and like a path forward and out. And it made me think when you said that like, we need to come up with pre -planned responses that...
Lindsey Mango (17:42.71)
Mm -hmm.
Sarah Fejfar (17:51.353)
there's probably a lot of things in life that we could have a pre -planned response on and then be able to get out of like stuckness faster.
Lindsey Mango (18:01.07)
Yeah, um, I'm like what episode was that? I don't even know where I said that.
Sarah Fejfar (18:03.449)
I am might I'm more I think about it, it might have been with your husband when he coached you recently. And you guys were talking about that.
Lindsey Mango (18:10.67)
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, so I think that one of the best things we can do is be honest with ourselves and know that we are going to get stuck in our loops and we are going to ruminate and we are going to have fear. We are humans with human brains. And so I think one of the best things we can do is bring awareness to those patterns. And tell me if I'm going in the direction that you were thinking, but like,
And when we know what those patterns are, what we can do is prepare ourselves with how we want to handle those things. Rather than, because they always say like when emotions are high, intelligence is low. So it's truly like how our survival works is that when you are in fear, when you are in fight or flight, like intelligence lowers so that your body can respond.
Sarah Fejfar (18:44.985)
Yes.
Sarah Fejfar (18:50.649)
Mmm.
Lindsey Mango (19:02.926)
So like you said, it makes so much sense. It's a lot harder to think logically to pull yourself out of those things when you're in those moments. But when you have prepared for it, when you know your pattern, what you can do is, it's not like the tornado is not gonna happen, the tornado of ruminating. I think what it does is it gives you the ability to see the tornado from a different lens. You're like, oh, the tornado is happening.
rather than being in the tornado flying around and like you don't know what to do. So I think that's a huge piece of it. And honestly, a lot of it's just like having compassion, like, of course the tornado is coming and I'm scared and I'm uncomfortable and all of that. And then I think the other piece is like we were talking about, like preparing ahead of time and knowing how you want to handle that. So does that look like getting out of your office and going on a walk? Does that look like?
Sarah Fejfar (19:35.423)
Yes.
Sarah Fejfar (19:47.193)
they are.
Lindsey Mango (20:01.484)
connecting to some like a thought that's really powerful for you. Does that look like not, you know, writing 17 emails in that moment to try to like handle the emotions that you're experiencing. And I think what it can just do is just prepare you for those moments, kind of like an insurance policy, so you don't have to stress when they come, you are prepared for.
Sarah Fejfar (20:23.961)
Yes. That's so good. Little insurance policy. It's going to happen. So let's just like, put a plan and play. Yeah, so when I heard that in that episode, I was thinking about, I keep like, I have this journal, and then I carry it around with me everywhere. But then I always like to write a card with what's happening for the day, the things that I'm going to do and.
Lindsey Mango (20:30.35)
Yes! Yes!
Sarah Fejfar (20:54.041)
And I noticed myself that I carry around this card that says if I'm stuck in any of these things like fear, scarcity, like your first thing that you're gonna do is go for a walk or do like breath work and then you're gonna do journaling. And I have a framework that I heard like Gabby Bernstein share once. And I just keep it there and I flip the card deck has like,
Lindsey Mango (21:07.98)
Mmm.
Sarah Fejfar (21:22.105)
my intentions for my vision of where I'm going. But I have that card in there that I just like flip through the deck every day and I read my things. And I just noticed like, that's actually what I did. I have a pre -planned response for that thing. And now I'm thinking like, how many more places, how many more things do I like patterns to have that aren't positive that I could create like a card for so that, like I could have some awareness that
Lindsey Mango (21:27.15)
Yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (21:51.129)
when I'm in that tornado, I could like look at it and this is what I do.
Lindsey Mango (21:54.158)
Yeah, I love that. What a cool, I love the little cards. That's such a cool idea.
Sarah Fejfar (22:00.523)
Yeah, it's because I go into the sauna a lot. And I was I had like, like a few cards, and I realized, well, it looks so silly when they fall all over the place in the sauna is get a like a public club. So how about I just like loop them together and then I'll
Lindsey Mango (22:22.19)
gathering them all, putting them in your purse and you're just like hunched over.
Sarah Fejfar (22:24.769)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (22:30.329)
I think in that same episode, you were talking about things that are optional and not. And I want to ask you more about that because you had mentioned you had mentioned a few things to your husband that you were considering like getting coaching on in that episode. He was going to coach. He coached you. And one of them you said was about like growing your family. And you said something really interesting, like, well, but I don't know if we need to talk about that one because like.
it's like it's going to happen. So I will just figure it out. And it really struck me because that's, that's how I go into every interaction with a client. I any every event that I've ever produced, it really doesn't matter what it is, I'm just like, just hand it to me and I like, I will figure it out. Like, it's gonna be amazing. And and, you know, we will prevent problems before they become problems. And if there are problems,
I already have pre -planned responses like up here, like it's, we're going to get through it. I have that level of confidence, but for my own dreams, I don't have the certainty that you put around that whole like, well, our family is expanding and it might be trying, but I know I'm going to figure it out. So it's like, it's like a done deal. And I wonder how do you shift that belief?
Lindsey Mango (23:51.502)
Yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (23:55.929)
Because I know I have it inside of me. I have it with my clients. It's like, whatever it takes, it's a done deal, like consider it done. But how do I do that for myself?
Lindsey Mango (23:59.566)
Yeah, absolutely.
Lindsey Mango (24:06.574)
Yeah, oh, I love this topic so much. Because I truly believe that the only reason anything we desire hasn't happened yet is because we truly haven't made it optional. We haven't gotten to that place where we're like, no matter what, this is happening. And so I think it's something I'm always exploring. It's something, because here's the thing. Usually, we don't, we do that when we put ourselves in a position where we're almost forced to.
Sarah Fejfar (24:17.143)
Mmm.
Sarah Fejfar (24:21.369)
Mmm.
Sarah Fejfar (24:37.399)
Okay.
Lindsey Mango (24:37.71)
Like a lot of times people will wait until their back is against the wall, until they hit their lowest moment, until they, you know, this isn't the case with you and your clients, but like in life, they can't go on this way. And that's when they hit their moment of change where they're like, I, this isn't optional. I have to do something. I think that it becomes a little bit more challenging as you uplevel in life and life's pretty good to hit that same moment.
of this isn't optional. This is actually where you see a lot of people sabotage themselves to get to a place where their back is against the wall to motivate that change. But that's obviously not ideal. So the biggest thing for me is that I explore it. Like, first of all, I'm aware of it. I'm like, OK, I can see that I'm not making this thing optional and getting curious around why. And I think the other piece of it is connecting to
Sarah Fejfar (25:14.521)
Mm. Right.
Lindsey Mango (25:33.87)
the cost of not doing it, the cost of not moving forward, the emotions behind it. I think so often we wanna think very logically when it comes to business, which is also a great asset, but where you're gonna hit your like, we're doing this no matter what is gonna be on an emotional level. And in order to reach that level, you have to connect to like...
Sarah Fejfar (25:41.593)
Yes.
Lindsey Mango (25:58.772)
why this matters, why this dream is important, why you're willing to do whatever it takes for your dream, what it will cost you if you don't. And I honestly think sometimes you have to re come back to that moment over and over because I think you can reach it and then you can be like, we've fallen kind of forgotten about that. And so I think it's just like reconnecting to that over and over and over again.
Sarah Fejfar (26:17.241)
Yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (26:22.393)
Mm. So good. I love that advice. I'm gonna in a journal on that one. I think there's yeah, there's there's work to be done there. Yep.
Lindsey Mango (26:32.942)
Some juice there.
Sarah Fejfar (26:36.953)
So I recently read this book, I just had a guest on, Evan Carmichael, and I read one of his books in prep, it's called, which one was it? It wasn't his momentum book, it was his book about belief. And he has this exercise where you super simple, you just answer questions like,
Who was your favorite teacher when you were in grade school and why? And what do you love about how your parents raised you and why? What's your favorite movie, why? Just five super simple questions like that. And it reveals your purpose in life. And for me, what came out was caring. Like that I just have this deep sense of wanting to care for those around me. And then it revealed to me that when I...
every time I'm out of alignment with that, where I feel like people aren't caring for themselves or caring about the outcome. Like that's what kind of gets under my skin when I sense people don't care. And one of the episodes I listened to of your podcast, you were talking about, and maybe it was that same one where you were talking about this bittersweet book and how it just...
you care so much and so deeply about kind of life in the world. And I feel like since we're so aligned on that, I love to explore that vein a little bit of like, how does that sense of like deep caring for others, like manifest it in your coaching practice and in your personal life?
Lindsey Mango (28:24.206)
Yeah, I think that it's so I think it actually all started with a deep caring. I think it's both but I think it was a deep caring about like my own life and like the value of life. So I think I shared on that podcast that I had lost my grandma like late in life lived a full life but I had lost a teammate who was like 24 years old.
Sarah Fejfar (28:39.543)
Hmm.
Lindsey Mango (28:50.446)
And I think that really struck, like that just struck me in a way where I feel like I really came face to face with like, life isn't forever. And it also might not be like when I'm 90 years old. And so, I'll.
Sarah Fejfar (29:01.337)
Mm.
Lindsey Mango (29:06.382)
tie that back, but essentially what that did is it just, I think overall, it gave me this deep care and sense of like the value of life in general for other people and also a deep care for my life and the time that I had on this planet. And so what that did is it inspired so much change in my life. And then in turn, that created this fire that cared so deeply about.
Sarah Fejfar (29:14.807)
Mmm.
Lindsey Mango (29:33.774)
other people and the quality of their life while they're on this planet for a limited amount of time. And I think that just like that fuels forward all of my work. Because what I think about often is I think about the version of me before I found my life coach. And what would have happened to my life if I never found those tools, if I never found her, if I never and like,
To me, the cost of that is everything. And when I think about how every, like I could be that person for so many humans, it fires me up and it brings that like heart into it. And I think it shows up in how I coach my clients. I think it's why I'm willing to do uncomfortable things. I mean, I think it's kind of carried through so many different aspects.
Sarah Fejfar (30:26.553)
Yeah, I'm hearing a value, like a deep sense of value of what we have. And I'm also hearing an awareness of opportunity cost.
Lindsey Mango (30:41.71)
Yes, 100%. I think one of my favorite quotes, I was an athlete my whole life and they always talk about, leave it all out on the field. Whatever you do, whether you win or lose, blood, sweat and tears leave everything you have and you can walk away with your, it makes me teary eyed just to talk about it, but you can walk away proud. And I think I started to apply that to life. And I thought at the end of my life,
Sarah Fejfar (31:02.617)
Yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (31:06.713)
Mmm.
Lindsey Mango (31:10.862)
I want to know that I left it all out on the field and I'm sure I'll have goals even when I'm 90 that I hadn't achieved yet, but if I know I did that, I will walk away proud. And then I think that matters for all of the people that I help too.
Sarah Fejfar (31:27.929)
I'm feeling a little teary right now because my grandmother passed away last week and I'm actually getting on a plane tomorrow to go to her funeral. And I sat in a lot of tears this week and I keep coming back to what you just said about how
Lindsey Mango (31:38.646)
Hmm, oh I'm so sorry.
Sarah Fejfar (31:57.305)
And she died at almost 99. And she just lived, yeah, like a totally full life. Like left it all on the table. Like I just very, you know, I just, I don't have any like regrets for her. And I don't have any, like I just only have joy. Cause I got the sense she just lived out what she wanted to live out. And that feels good. I also feel like, I feel it's like extra hard, this loss because,
Lindsey Mango (32:04.782)
So cool.
Lindsey Mango (32:20.142)
Oh, cool.
Sarah Fejfar (32:27.257)
she emulates my sense of like, why I'm here on earth, which is caring and just, you know, there's that isn't the Maya Angelou quote that's like, they'll forget what you did, but not how you made them feel like, that's my grandmother, like, I just got the sense I was always welcome, and that she always cared, you know, that we were together and, you know, with all these special things that she did, and just like the presence that she held for us.
Lindsey Mango (32:41.338)
Hmm.
Lindsey Mango (32:47.15)
That's so special.
Lindsey Mango (32:57.422)
Wow, that's awesome. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Sarah Fejfar (32:57.593)
So yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I want to talk about parenting for a moment. So we're both parents. And I think a lot about doing a really good job of raising my daughter. I think it's probably my high. I think of values. I have a hierarchy and.
Lindsey Mango (33:10.412)
Mm -hmm.
Sarah Fejfar (33:24.429)
just family specifically doing a good job for her is just so very, very high up for me. And I, and then this new lens of entrepreneurship over the past six, seven years now has really made me think specifically about what lessons I want to impart on her. And I think about things like teaching her how that an awareness and also how to create wealth outside of the traditional nine to five.
job system, it may not be for her, but I want her to have an awareness that it's there. I want her to have awareness of how to grow wealth. I want her to have a strong sense of self -awareness and self -compassion. I don't think there's anything more important than emotional intelligence. And if you asked me that question before I found out about entrepreneurship, I...
Lindsey Mango (33:54.67)
Totally.
Lindsey Mango (34:14.222)
Yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (34:21.049)
I wouldn't have had any of those answers. And so I'm wondering what lessons are you working to impart on your daughter? I know she's she's still young and your baby boy that's on the way. What do you what do you think about?
Lindsey Mango (34:23.434)
So cool!
Lindsey Mango (34:35.31)
Oh my gosh, I agree. I feel like it's something I think about so often. I think my husband probably gets a nervous amuse up because I'm like, do you think if we, you know, like, I'm just always like playing out things in my mind. And I mean, I think all of those things, I think the biggest thing that I want to impart on her is that she a couple things. I think the first one is compassion.
like in like space for her emotions. I think that that is something I've had to learn as an adult. And I just want her to have the capacity to hold her emotions and not make them a problem and allow them and process them and have compassion for her humanness. And along with that on the flip side, I want her to have the belief that
Sarah Fejfar (35:17.653)
Yes.
Mm.
Lindsey Mango (35:28.704)
any absolutely anything she could ever dream of that's possible for her life is possible is something that she can do is something that she has inside of her everything that she needs to create. For me, that would just feel and whether that's like same, whether that's entrepreneurship, whether that's she wants to go be an accountant or whatever, like I think that's probably the last piece is.
Sarah Fejfar (35:54.489)
Yeah.
Lindsey Mango (35:58.254)
I want her life to be a reflection of her truest, her insides, what her true self wants, not what I want for her, not what the world wants for her, not what my husband wants for her. I want it to be what her insides tell her are important to her. And I want her to believe that anything she wants is 100 % possible and in her power to create.
Sarah Fejfar (36:02.315)
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Sarah Fejfar (36:20.633)
Mm.
Sarah Fejfar (36:24.153)
That's beautiful. I love that. Because I met personal development so late in life, so at 36, and I also met Audible at the same time, I didn't realize that I thought books weren't for me because anything I'd ever read was because I was assigned a book and in school and it didn't work in church. It didn't ever land for me. And so,
Lindsey Mango (36:44.726)
Yeah, oh, totally.
Sarah Fejfar (36:54.073)
to meet Audible and personal development and entrepreneurship at the same time and realize that there was like the world was so much bigger and that I could, there was things I could learn about and explore that would help me be more of me. I'm grateful everything, you know, life happens like everything happens for the right reason at the right time, you know, like, and, and so meeting personal development at 36 is what happened, but it's.
I feel like, wow, what a gift we can give our kids. We can introduce the wholeness of life earlier.
Lindsey Mango (37:32.11)
Oh my gosh, I was the same way. I like read books to get good grades. So I'm like learning. Like why would I do that? But yeah, I love the quote. Like our parents, what is it? Our parents' floor, or I'm sorry, ceiling becomes our floor and our floor or whatever. Like our floor becomes our kids' floor. And I just love to think about that because I think...
Sarah Fejfar (37:37.689)
Yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (37:48.953)
Hmm. Yep.
Lindsey Mango (37:57.774)
with the work we're doing on ourselves and the work that we're imparting on our kids. I'm like, gosh, can you imagine having this from like the time you're a kid on like it just makes me feel so excited for the possibilities for their lives. Like, it's just so cool.
Sarah Fejfar (38:15.929)
Yeah, I'm totally excited too. Just being able to reach more of the human potential, right? Yeah.
Lindsey Mango (38:25.006)
Yes, totally. I don't know if you asked me a question there, but if you did and I didn't answer, just tell me.
Sarah Fejfar (38:29.557)
No, I didn't. It was more of just a statement of just I think, yeah, human potential and tapping into it and just having more of a runway and an opportunity to do so. Yeah. But I think, you know, if you have a big background and being an athlete, you are probably exposed to more concepts than most because I think.
Lindsey Mango (38:44.59)
Yeah, totally.
Sarah Fejfar (38:56.121)
The longer you make it in as like playing the sports, the more awareness you have to become on have on stuff that makes you a more optimal human, you know.
Lindsey Mango (39:06.254)
Yeah, so I think for me, 100%. I mean, there's a double -edged sword, because I think there are also a lot of pieces, like the emotional awareness and things like that, that I wasn't taught in sports, where it was like, who cares how you feel? Show up today and get the job done. So there's that half of it. But on the flip side, my dad was a college athlete. My sister was a college athlete. I was a college athlete. And my dad wrote a book.
Sarah Fejfar (39:25.369)
Yeah, yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (39:33.977)
Mm.
Lindsey Mango (39:36.11)
for parenting and he was a gym teacher. So I always tell people that like, I have been learning some of these concepts like personal responsibility and like feeling powerful and feeling like I can create my reality like for most of my life. And you know, when it comes to sports and all of that, it's like there are times I didn't make the teams I wanted to and times where I failed and so.
you know, I talked to my husband about that because he wasn't an athlete like at all. And we talk about and like, think about the confidence you build, you know, if, if you're taught in a way that supports that where you, you get on the court and you fail over and over again, and you learn and you get better or whatever. Or for me, like one of the most pivotal moments in my life was, or like just a learning opportunity was when I didn't make a team that I wanted, and I wanted to blame the coaches and the this and the that. And my dad just looked at me and was like, I love you.
what are you gonna do about it? And basically it was like, the only option if you want to like go past this is to become so good, the coach would look silly not to play you. And in that moment, it gave me so much personal power and that's exactly what I did. So yeah, there's so like, I mean, I got to play in like this athletic arena and practice so many of these tools that I now take out into my life and get to teach other people too.
Sarah Fejfar (40:59.705)
Yeah. Yeah, that's a cool background to have coming in. There's some fun books or stories in the Gap and the Gain book about sports and kind of getting out of the gap and into the game. I enjoyed that. I'm curious. I love like helping is my love language. I'm curious because I love events.
Lindsey Mango (41:16.142)
Total, yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (41:26.809)
Do you have any dreams about how you would marry what you do now into an event scenario for your clients?
Lindsey Mango (41:38.478)
Yeah, I actually have two ideas. One of them is a pod. So you've listened to my podcast, the Life Coach Hotline. I have an idea to do kind of an event that's almost like a show type feel, like where it's like I bring people up from the audience. It's like Life Coach Hotline and it's like a fun evening, but like there's also coaching, live coaching happening. So there's that. And then on the other side, I have my membership and I have dreams of like doing like a.
Sarah Fejfar (41:40.183)
Mm.
Sarah Fejfar (41:44.599)
Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm.
Sarah Fejfar (41:51.673)
Mm.
Have fun.
Sarah Fejfar (41:59.193)
Yeah.
Lindsey Mango (42:07.022)
almost like a birthday party for the membership every year where it's just like this big fun event and like great conversations like birthday cake like just lots of fun things and cool. Yeah, essentially and then just like maybe some speakers and like, I don't know I don't I haven't thought like a ton about it but I definitely like see it going there at some point. So
Sarah Fejfar (42:09.913)
No.
Sarah Fejfar (42:18.315)
A celebration.
Sarah Fejfar (42:29.785)
That is fun. It's fun to have like the, yeah, it's fun to have like those little starts of the vision and like to just kind of like tuck away those like the fun ideas that come along the way. Like there will be cake.
Lindsey Mango (42:44.064)
Yeah. Yes, I know there will be cake. And like, yeah, you're like, I've got little bits and pieces. I don't have a lot, but it's there.
Sarah Fejfar (42:53.817)
Yeah, yeah, I always coach to have people like tuck that stuff away in some sort of file because we never know like when we're going to get the downloads of all the good ideas for like the fun things that are we're going to incorporate and you know, like how we're going to really translate our brand into like that live experience of our brand and stuff like like cake is, you know, it's so fun. It's so fun. I would love to know.
Lindsey Mango (43:07.438)
I love that.
Lindsey Mango (43:12.822)
Yeah.
I love that.
Sarah Fejfar (43:23.609)
what you're reading right now. So I value lifelong learning so much. Ever since I met like audible and personal development, I just have been obsessed and also kind of subscribed to the school of thought that we must design our own curriculum with intention. And so before we wrap up, I want to know three parts. What book are you reading right now?
Lindsey Mango (43:43.052)
Hmm.
Sarah Fejfar (43:49.945)
Why did you pick that book and what's one thing you learned so far in it?
Lindsey Mango (43:56.002)
Hmm.
Okay, so interesting. I feel like I'm reading like three books at the same time.
Sarah Fejfar (44:05.305)
That's okay.
I do the same.
Lindsey Mango (44:12.814)
So I'm going to think about, okay, so I'll pick this book, the bittersweet book that I talked to you or that you heard me talk about on the podcast is one of... I was talking to you, Sarah. So bittersweet, it was actually recommended to me by a friend. I wrote down what you said, what I'm reading. What was the next one?
Sarah Fejfar (44:21.113)
Yeah, I felt like you were talking directly to me. So yeah, you can say I was talking to you about it. It's a sign of it. That's a sign of a great show, right?
Sarah Fejfar (44:42.713)
Yeah, what you're reading, why you picked it, and one thing you learned.
Lindsey Mango (44:45.592)
Why? Okay, so it was recommended to me by a friend. And one thing I'm working on is, I mean, I'm big on emotions and emotional intelligence and all that. And I think for me, I think from sports, sometimes I've learned to like tuck those away. And my friend recommended this book to me because I actually think deeply, I am like a very emotionally feeling.
I think I have been my whole life and and so we were just talking about you know emotions and like learning that I love the idea of bittersweet like that feeling of like both happiness and sadness at the same time I think I feel that way a lot and so Really what it is talking about is allowing that like being okay with that and not needing to fix it and using that as fuel and so I think this book is just really like
giving me permission to be in that and that bittersweetness like often and that it can actually be a really powerful thing. And so we were just we're kind of talking about emotions and she was like, I think you would really, really like this book. And I do. And so I would say the biggest thing that I took took from it so far is kind of what I already touched on. I think some of some of our most powerful fuel can be those emotions that feel like bruises.
like where like your heart feels like sensitive and that by turning away from them, we turn away from so much of like our power and meaning and our connection to being human. And so I feel like it's really allowing me to get in touch with that and allow that so much more.
Sarah Fejfar (46:11.865)
you
Sarah Fejfar (46:32.281)
Because that's probably one of your superpowers as a coach, right? Yeah.
Lindsey Mango (46:38.286)
Yes, yes, oh, totally. It's, yeah, it's understanding the duality. And I think that's also my fuel. Like I said, I think it's like the duality of like, life is short and life is like, and the sadness and the happiness of that, like simultaneously.
Sarah Fejfar (46:56.985)
Gosh, that's so good. What else are you reading? You said you've got three.
Lindsey Mango (47:06.862)
the other one, you should talk to someone I think it's like an Oprah Winfrey and someone else they're like interviewing each other. I'm not like super far into that. That one's more on trauma. It's just been really like interesting and fascinating to read. And then the other one is the mountain is you by Brianna West. I've read that one I think before. Are you reading that too?
Sarah Fejfar (47:30.009)
feel like I well but I just I feel like that that book has come up in several conversations recently and I feel like I might be getting a sign.
Lindsey Mango (47:39.284)
Yeah, maybe it's a good it's a really good book.
Sarah Fejfar (47:42.615)
Mmm.
Lindsey Mango (47:45.134)
I mean, I go through seasons. I read pretty consistently. I feel like in the season of being pregnant the last month, I'm like, probably haven't read as much as I normally do, but I'm obsessed with books. And I agree. It's interesting because I used to be like you where I'm like, read. I don't even read the books that I got assigned in college. I just skimmed them.
Sarah Fejfar (47:45.145)
Yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (47:52.601)
Yeah.
Sarah Fejfar (48:02.073)
Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, it is such a gift to like to have your world opened up and realize like that there are there is a like there is a track for you where you're going to find things that you're interested in and like, like that catch your attention and help you grow and like just spark so much joy and feel your passion. Yeah, it's fun.
Lindsey Mango (48:26.67)
Yeah, totally, it is.
Sarah Fejfar (48:29.433)
I usually have a few going as well because I love audible. And when I'm walking the dog in the morning, I always like to listen to a book. And then by the summer, I started this new sauna cold plunge habit. And so spending all these minutes in the sauna and the, you know, the person who in me wants to do, do, do more and more and more is like, well, how am I going to use this time? And I can't take a phone. I can't take a screen in.
Lindsey Mango (48:45.134)
So cool.
Sarah Fejfar (48:58.233)
And so I started taking in like paper books that I can't get on Audible and I just still really want to read it. And I learned I can actually read a paper book too. And so that's kind of exciting. So I usually have a two going. And so right now I'm reading with I'm finishing up the gap in the game. And then I also have the.
Lindsey Mango (49:13.742)
Love that.
Sarah Fejfar (49:26.333)
Frank Kern wrote a book on personal development and called The Path. Yes. And it's not for sale. I just I got it inside of one of his programs once. And because it's only on paper, I just had never read it. And I'm absolutely loving it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Yeah.
Lindsey Mango (49:30.606)
Really? I didn't know that.
Lindsey Mango (49:43.182)
Cool. Oh my gosh. I feel like you have like a secret. Yeah, you got access to a secret club or something.
Sarah Fejfar (49:51.225)
Yeah, I'm gonna have to reach out afterwards and tell him how much I love it and he needs to actually publish the book. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then I think I have another one on my audible that I haven't finished. It's called The Work by Nicole DePera. Have you? Do you follow her on Instagram? Oh my gosh, she's like the psychologist type that has like the most intuitive like posts and
Lindsey Mango (49:59.426)
That would be nice for the rest of us.
Lindsey Mango (50:11.628)
No, I don't. Huh.
Sarah Fejfar (50:20.629)
But it's a hard, it's like, it's emotional. So I'm taking my time moving through it because it's causing a lot of stuff to come up and the processing and yeah. Oh my goodness. I feel like I could talk forever. But we both have days we have to get back to. Lizzie, it's been an absolute pleasure chatting with you.
Lindsey Mango (50:24.074)
Hmm.
Lindsey Mango (50:29.718)
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, I'll have to check it out.
Lindsey Mango (50:39.822)
Ha ha ha.
Sarah Fejfar (50:45.529)
And what I'd love to know last before you go is what have you got going on in your business that we should know about and where can Lingepin Nation find you?
Lindsey Mango (50:57.166)
Yeah, so I have a membership that is like my main thing. So you mentioned it earlier. It's called the ABA life membership. It's I mean, we have tons of entrepreneurs in there, like anyone who knows they want more out of their life. That is where we do life coaching. I have so many different modules on health, money mindset, your.
Sarah Fejfar (51:01.625)
Okay.
Lindsey Mango (51:22.126)
relationship. So really, we're just covering the whole gamut and taking these tools and going deep with them and applying them and coaching on them to help you create more of what you really, really want. So to find that you can go to lindsaymangocoaching .com forward slash life and then I love Instagram. So if you want to follow me on there at Lindsay mango underscore, that's where I spend most of my time.
Sarah Fejfar (51:36.793)
Okay.
Sarah Fejfar (51:44.673)
Oh, yay. Okay, I will link all that up in the show notes. And thank you again. This has been an absolute pleasure.
Lindsey Mango (51:49.358)
Awesome.
Lindsey Mango (51:53.87)
Thank you so much. I have enjoyed this so much.
